Tuesday, July 20, 2004
Libertythink's "Rat Cat" has made the definitve transcript of Alex Jones' February 1, 2002 interview with John DeCamp. John DeCamp is the former Nebraska state senator who uncovered a massive child sex ring operating at the highest levels of power in the United States.
The full transcript is available at c0balt.com and San Francisco IndyMedia is hosting an MP3 audio file of the interview.
Here are some excerpts dealing with the tie-in of this ring to the Bohemian Grove: John DeCamp: Anyway, so yeah, I won the million dollar judgment in federal court finally and it wasn't easy and I want to talk about that a little because some of the stuff coming out about pedophilia in the church now where things were written in my book way back then. But anyway to get to the heart of the matter that you called about as I understand it. I took simply the diaries of Paul Bonacci and I printed a good portion of them in my book and one of them - one of the areas described a trip in 1984. I could even read part of it here. In fact, in which he was taken to an area around Sacramento and then where they had the great big tall trees and then they went in where there is some owl. Some huge carved owl or something...
I didn't know there was a place called Bohemian Grove. I didn't write Bohemian Grove in the book because I didn't know what it was. I just took his diary. Anyway, it clearly is where he was taken and he was taken out there for a ceremony in which they committed some pretty horrible things on another boy. And three boys and they filmed it and I just took his words and the names he wrote there. And they’re right in the book.
And by the way just to answer your next question. Yes, I put names in the book, dates and everything that I could just as they were. Why? Because I figured blow it out all straight and I said when a number of threatening calls came after the first edition came out. They said, "This is the most libelous, slanderous thing we've ever heard." And I said, "Fine, I think I've done enough to prove it and I'm satisfied. If somebody feels that way, if somebody said these things about me I'd sue them for libel and slander."
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I have right here the diary. Do you want me to read a little? Understand that I didn't know that the thing was Bohemian Grove back then, nor did the kid when he was writing it. All he knew was he was taken to this place...
"I went in January," now this is Bonacci, this is Paul Bonacci writing this. This is directly word-for-word from his diary:  "I went in January of '84 on every trip. I was paid by men King knew for sex. The summer of '84 sometime I went to Dallas, Texas and had sex with several men King knew in a hotel. I flew on YNR airlines (by the way that’s a private airline or a private charter deal) and Cam airlines (another private charter deal) normally for King. I never had much personally to do with King only went where he told me to go.
"In or on July 26th, I went to Sacramento, CA. King flew me out on a private plane from an airfield in Omaha to Denver where we picked up Nicholas. A boy who was about 12 or 13, then we flew to Vegas to a desert strip and drove into Las Vegas to some ranch and got something. Then flew on to Sacramento. We were picked up by a white limo and taken to a hotel. I don't remember the name of it. We, meaning Nicholas and I, were driven to an area that had big, big trees. It took about an hour to get there. There was a cage with a boy in it who was not wearing anything. Nicholas and I were given these Tarzan things to put around us and some stuff like that. They told me to, (I won't use the word) blank the boy and stuff. (In other words have sex with him.) At first I said no and they held a gun to my genitals (I'll use that word) and said do it or else lose them or something like that. I began doing it to the boy and stuff. And Nicholas had anal sex and stuff. We were told to blank him and stuff and beat on him. I didn't try to hurt him.
"We were told to put our blanks in his mouth and stuff and sit on the boy’s blank and stuff and they filmed it. We did this stuff to the boy for about 30 minutes or an hour when a man came in and kicked us and stuff in the genitals. And picked us up and threw us. He grabbed the boy and started blanking him and stuff. The man was about (I'm not sure how to say this) the man was about so many inches long and the boy screamed and stuff. The man was forcing his blank into the boy all the way. The boy was bleeding from his rectum and the men tossed me and him and stuff and put the boy right next to me and grabbed a gun and blew the boy's head off. The boy's blood was all over me and I started yelling and crying and the men grabbed Nicholas and I and forced us to lie down. They put the boy on top of Nicholas who was crying and they were putting Nicholas's hands on the boy’s blank. They put the boy on top of me and did the same thing. They then forced me to blank the dead boy. (It gets pretty crude.) They put a gun to our heads to make us do it. His blood was all over us. They made us kiss the boy’s lips. (Anyway, a few other things.) Then they made me do something I don't even want to write so I won't.
"After that the men grabbed Nicholas and drug him off screaming. They put me up against a tree and put a gun to my head but fired into the air. I heard another shot from somewhere and then saw the man who killed the boy drag him like a toy. Everything including when the men put the boy in the trunk was filmed. The men took me with them and we went up in a plane. I saw the bag the boy was in. We went over a very thick brush area with a clearing in it. Over the clearing they dropped the boy. One said the men with the hoods would take care of the body for them.
"I didn't see Nicholas until that night at the hotel. He and I hugged and held each other for a long while. About 2 hours later the men or Larry King came in and told us to go take a shower since we'd had only been hosed off at some guy’s house. We took a shower together and then were told to put on the Tarzan things. And after we were cleaned up and dressed in these things we were told to put on shorts, socks and a shirt and shoes and were driven to a house where the men were at some others. They had the film and they played it. As the men watched it they passed Nicholas and I around as if we were toys..." [...]
Alex Jones: There were convictions and you wrote the book and nobody sued you because... I mean these children didn't know - they were flown to Sacramento and then driving for an hour and that's how long it takes to get to the Grove and they describe it in great detail and the stuff that had come out earlier. And then I’ve been there for their big to-do when it's not a small crowd when it's a big crowd. They have all this regalia, bring a bound body in, it begs for its life, they burn it and it screams in pain and that's just the stylized stuff they do there. When Skull and Bones came out on Fox news last year - slitting the woman's throat, the blood squirts. Why isn't there a police investigation? If my neighbors saw me slitting women's throats and worshipping Satan, which they were doing by the way on the tape, in my back yard wouldn't they call the cops on me? Wouldn't the cops have probable cause, John, for a search of my house?
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JD: Let me say something here. It’s kind of important. I don’t know what George [HW] does or doesn’t do or his children or whatever. I guess I know him. I, John DeCamp, who wrote this book was the number one vote-getting delegate pledged to George [HW] Bush, famous president. At the Republican National Convention, I was the number one vote-getter from Nebraska attending the Republican National Convention in New Orleans and Texas and so on and so forth. And I guarantee you, I had no idea any of this was going on at the time. At the same time, I also attended the single biggest party ever put on at any, at any national convention. That was put on by Larry King at the Southport Ranch in Dallas at the Republican Convention in 1984. I attended it. It was only later, one of the things that I absolutely know when I interviewed this kid Paul Bonacci in prison, that I told you about, knew absolutely he was telling the truth when he starts describing that party and that Convention as well or better than I could. And you would have had to have physically been there, which he was – to know some of these things – to see and identify some of these things. So, just because you were at a party… And Larry King, by the way, rented a mansion on Embassy Row in Washington, DC that cost about $5000 a month during all this time even though Larry King was officially earning $16,000 a year during that time.
AJ: Well, let's go further. They use Bohemian Grove to compromise. [Cross-talk] They use it to compromise people. Dick Nixon, Richard Nixon said, quote, and this is on the record, I have a news article, it's "the most faggy place" he'd ever seen. He hated to go there but he went there for power. He went there to smooze. And, so you want to make all that clear, exactly. We are not even saying that even though this is what the evidence shows is going at the Grove with these witnesses – a lot of people just cannot bring themselves to admit that this is the full magnitude. (The full transcript is mirrored on LibertyForum as well.)
See also - Libertythink:
A visit to the Bohemian Club
- Alex Jones Bohemian Grove archive
- Libertythink Grove update from Sunday
- More Grove background
- Friday's edition of Wall Street Journal names Bohemian Grovers
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